307 lots

LOT 41

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

"Watch with 8 Complications" Attributed to Louis Audemars, Swiss, No. 2296, retailed by Marcks & Co., Bombay & Poona. Made for the Indian market, circa 1870. Very fine and very rare, minute-repeating, keyless, 18K gold pocket watch with triple-date calendar, moon phases and age, Reaumur thermometer and center-seconds with Audemars-type "rattrapante" chronograph hand with mechanism under the dial and without return-to-zero function. Accompanied by a fitted box.

C. Four-body, "bassine et filet", polished, engine-turned back cover "grains d'orge", single button in the crown for the stop and rejoin chronograph hand functions. Hinged gold cuvette. D. White enamel, radial Roman numerals, outer minute and seconds divisions and Arabic five minute/seconds numerals, subsidiary dials for the date, days of the week and months, aperture for the moon phases with moon's age on the edge, Reaumur thermometer scale below. Gold "pear" hour and minute hands, blued steel chronograph hands. M. 20''', frosted gilt, 29 jewels, gold wheel train, wolf's tooth winding, counterpoised straight-line lever escapement, cut bimetallic compensation balance with peripheral gold adjustment screws, blued steel Breguet balance spring, index regulator, repeating on gongs activated by a slide on the band. Dial and cuvette signed by the retailer. Diam. 54 mm.

Grading System: AAA

CHF 35,000 - 45,000

EUR 20,000 - 27,000

USD 30,000 - 38,000

Sold: CHF 38,940

LOT 42

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

?Constellation, Electroquartz, f8192 Hz? Omega, ?Constellation, Electroquartz, f8192 Hz?, Ref. 196.005. Made in 1974. Fine and very rare, rectangular, ?pupitre?, water-resistant, 18K yellow gold, asymmetric wristwatch with red date and an 18K yellow gold Omega bracelet with deployant clasp. Accompanied by fitted box, guarantee, instruction manual, service invoices and original catalogue.

C. Two-body, brushed, inclined bezel, half-hooded lugs, back secured with four screws, crown at 9, sapphire crystal. D. Gold with painted inclined indexes, inner minute/seconds division, Omega logo on red medallion at 12 , date aperture in red at 6. Black ?baton? hands, red center seconds hand. M. Cal. 1300 ?Beta 21?, 13 jewels, with quartz standardization. Dial, case and movement signed. Dim. 36.8 x 42 mm. Thickness 15 mm.

Grading System: AAA

CHF 7,000 - 9,000

EUR 4,200 - 5,500

USD 6,000 - 7,500

Sold: CHF 7,670

LOT 43

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

?Anakin Skywalker? Omega, ?Seamaster?, movement No. 32201912, Ref. ST 145.0023. Fine and very rare, tonneau-shaped, water-resistant, tungsten- bombarded ?1200 Vickers? stainless steel wristwatch with round button chronograph, 12-hour and 30-minute registers, tachometer and a stainless steel Omega bracelet with deployant clasp.

C. Two-body, ?Pilot-line?, massive, polished, inclined tungsten bezel, integral crown and pusher guard, hooded lugs, screwdown back with Seamaster logo. D. Black with applied luminous steel baton indexes, subsidiary dials for the seconds in black, the 12-hour and 30-minute registers in red, outer minute/seconds and 1/5th seconds divisions on a blue reserve, outermost white inclined tachometer scale graduated to 500 UPH. Luminous black and white ?baton? hands, orange chronograph hands. M. Cal. 861, copper colored, 17 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance, shock absorber, self compensating flat balance spring. Dial, case and movement signed. Dim. 45 x 51 mm. Thickness 14.6 mm. Approx overall length 19,5 cm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 3,000 - 5,000

EUR 1,800 - 3,000

USD 2,500 - 4,200

Sold: CHF 7,080

LOT 44

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

?Automatic, Seamaster? Omega, ?Automatic, Seamaster?, Ref. ST 176.005. Made circa 1973. Fine, large, tonneau-shaped, self-winding, water-resistant, stainless steel wristwatch with round-button chronograph, register, 24-hour indication, tachometer and a stainless steel Omega buckle.

C. Two-body, solid, polished and brushed, inclined sides, screwdown case back with Seamaster logo, flat sapphire crystal. D. Silver with black and steel faceted baton indexes and luminous dots, outer minute/seconds and 1/5th seconds divisions, subsidiary dial for the 12-hour register, 24-hours with day/night indication by arrow on a revolving disc, central 60-minute register with blue-tipped ?jet? hand, aperture for the date, outermost tachometer to 500 UPH. Luminous black ?baton? hand for the time, blue hand for the chronograph function. M. Cal. 1040, copper-colored, 22 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance, shock absorber, self-compensating flat balance spring. Dial, case and movement signed. Dim. 42 x 49 mm. Thickness 15.8 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 2,400 - 3,000

EUR 1,400 - 1,800

USD 2,000 - 2,500

LOT 45

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Ref. 1680, "Red-Submariner" Rolex, "Oyster Perpetual Date, Submariner, 200m/660ft., Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified", Ref. 1680, case No. 2299509. Made in 1969. Fine and rare, center-seconds, self-winding, water-resistant, stainless steel wristwatch with red "Submariner", date and a stainless steel Rolex "Fliplock" Oyster bracelet.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and crown, graduated bidirectional revolving black bezel for the decompression times, "Triplock" winding-crown protected by the "crown guard," crystal with Cyclops lens. D. Black with "Submariner" in red writing, luminous round, triangular and baton indexes, outer minute/seconds divisions, aperture for the date. Luminous steel "skeleton" hands. M. Cal. 1570, rhodiumplated, "oeil-de-perdrix" decoration, 26 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws, hack mechanism. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 14 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 11,000 - 13,000

EUR 6,500 - 8,000

USD 9,000 - 11,000

Sold: CHF 15,340

LOT 46

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

?Pointed Crown Guard? Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual, Submarine, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified?, Case No. 554807, Ref. 5512. Made in 1960. Fine, center seconds, self-winding, water resistant, stainless steel wristwatch with a stainless steel Rolex riveted Oyster bracelet.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed down case back and crown, graduated bi-directional revolving black bezel for the decompression times, "Triplock" winding-crown protected by the "crown guard". D. Black with luminous round, triangular and bâton indexes. Luminous "skeleton" hands. M. Cal. 1570, rhodium-plated, 26 jewels, straight line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to five positions and temperatures, shock-absorber, self-compensating Breguet balancespring, Microstella regulating screws. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 14 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 3,000 - 5,000

EUR 1,800 - 3,000

USD 2,500 - 4,200

Sold: CHF 11,800

LOT 47

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Ref. 6263, Stainless Steel "Cosmograph Daytona" Rolex, "Oyster, Cosmograph, Daytona", case No. 5503446, Ref. 6263. Made in 1978. Fine, water-resistant, stainless steel wristwatch with round button chronograph, registers, anti-reflective black bezel with tachometer and a stainless steel Rolex Oyster bracelet. Accompanied by two Rolex Hong Kong service documents.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back, buttons and "Triplock" crown, tachometer graduation on the antireflective bezel to 200 units/hour. D. Bicolor black and silver with applied steel baton indexes and luminous dots, outer minute and 1/5th seconds divisions, subsidiary dials for the seconds, the 30-minute and 12-hour registers. Luminous steel "baton" hands. M. Cal. 727, rhodium-plated, 17 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to 3 positions, microstella regulating screws, shock absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 37 mm. Thickness 13 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 38,000 - 50,000

EUR 23,000 - 30,000

USD 32,000 - 42,000

Sold: CHF 42,480

LOT 48

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Stainless Steel "Steve McQueen" Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual Date, Explorer II, Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified?, case No. 3343068, Ref. 1655. Made in 1973. Fine and rare, center seconds, self-winding, water-resistant, stainless steel wristwatch with date, special 24-hour bezel and orange hand and a stainless steel Rolex Oyster bracelet with deployant clasp. Accompanied by a fitted box.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and protected crown, graduated bezel in 24 hours, crystal with ?cyclops" lens. D. Black with luminous baton and triangular indexes, aperture for the date. Luminous white baton hands, large orange arrow to indicate diurnal and nocturnal hours on the 24-hour graduated bezel. M. Cal. 1570, rhodium-plated, 26 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws, hack mechanism. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness: 14 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 17,000 - 22,000

EUR 10,000 - 13,000

USD 14,000 - 18,000

Sold: CHF 27,140

LOT 49

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

White Gold "Day-Date, Diamond Dial" Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual, Day-Date, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified?, case No. 2885729, Ref. 1803. Made in 1971. Very fine, center-seconds, self-winding, water-resistant, 18K white gold chronometer wristwatch with day and date, diamond-set dial and an 18K white gold President bracelet with deployant clasp.

C. Three-body, solid, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and crown, faceted bezel, crystal with "cyclops" lens. D. Satiné blue with applied round and baguette diamond indexes, luminous dots, outer minute/seconds divisions, aperture for the day of the week and quick-set date. Luminous white gold baton hands. M. Cal. 1556, rhodiumplated, "oeil-de-perdrix" decoration, 26 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to 5 positions and temperature, shock absorber, self-compensating Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws, hack mechanism. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 36 mm. Thickness 12 mm. Approx. overall length 180 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 8,500 - 11,000

EUR 5,000 - 6,500

USD 7,200 - 9,000

Sold: CHF 9,440

LOT 50

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

White Gold "Day Date" Rolex Oyster Perpetual "Day Date", Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified, case No. 2742207, Ref. 1803. Made in 1971. Fine, tonneau-shaped, center-seconds, self-winding, water-resistant, 18K white gold wristwatch with day, date and a 18K white gold President bracelet with deployant clasp.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and crown, crystal with "Cyclops" lens. D. Gray with luminous steel "baton" indexes, aperture for the date and the day. Luminous steel "baton" hands. M. Cal. 1556, rhodiumplated, 26 jewels, straight line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock-absorber, self-compensating Breguet balance spring. Dial, case, and movement signed. Diam. 36 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 7,000 - 10,000

EUR 4,200 - 6,000

USD 6,000 - 8,500

Sold: CHF 10,620

LOT 51

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Steel and Gold "Datejust" Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual Datejust, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified?, case No. X555702, Ref. 16233. Made in 1991. Sold on August 27th 1994. Very fine, center-seconds, self-winding, water-resistant, stainless steel and 18K yellow gold wristwatch with date and a stainless steel and 18K yellow gold Rolex Jubilee bracelet. Accompanied by a fitted box and certificate.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and crown, fluted gold bezel, sapphire crystal with "cyclops" lens. D. Silvered, pyramid decoration, applied yellow gold radial Roman numerals and luminous dots, aperture for the date. Yellow gold baton hands. M. Cal. 3135, rhodium-plated, "oeil-de-perdrix" decoration, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws, hack mechanism. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 36 mm. Thickness 12 mm.

Grading System: A

CHF 2,000 - 3,000

EUR 1,200 - 1,800

USD 1,700 - 2,500

Sold: CHF 5,192

LOT 52

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

"GMT Master II" Rolex ?Oyster Perpetual Date GMT Master II, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified?, case No. Z649070, Ref. 116748SARU. Made in 2006, sold on July 16th 2007. Very fine, center seconds, self-winding, 18K yellow gold wristwatch with special sapphire, diamond and ruby bezel and an 18K yellow gold Oysterlock bracelet. Accompanied by fitted box and warranty.

C. Three-body, polished, satiné, screwed down case back and crown, bi-directional revolving bezel with 23 diamonds, 18 sapphires and 18 rubies, sapphire crystal with cyclops lens. D. Black with luminous indexes, aperture for the date. Luminous gold ?skeleton? hands. M. Cal. 3185, rhodium-plated, "oeil-deperdrix" decoration, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock-absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balancespring, Microstella regulating screws, hack mechanism. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 12 mm. Approximate overall length: 200 mm.

Grading System: AAA

CHF 30,000 - 40,000

EUR 18,000 - 25,000

USD 25,000 - 35,000

Sold: CHF 42,480

LOT 53

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Ref. 16600, ?Sea-Dweller 4000? Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual Date, Sea Dweller 4000ft= 1220m, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified?, case No. E644589, Ref. 16600. Made in 1991. Fine and rare, center seconds, water-resistant, stainless steel wristwatch with second generation gas-escape valve, date and stainless steel Rolex Oyster Fliplock bracelet. Accompanied by a box and guarantee (now void).

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down engraved case back, graduated uni-directional revolving bezel for the decompression times, "Triplock" winding crown protected by the "Crown-Guard", gas-escape valve at 9, sapphire crystal. D. Black with luminous steel round, triangular and baton indexes, outer minute/seconds division, aperture for the date. Luminous steel "skeleton" hands. M. Cal. 3135, rhodium-plated, 27-jewels, straight line lever escapement, free-sprung monometallic balance, shock-absorber, self-compensating Breguet balance spring. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Height 15 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 5,000 - 6,500

EUR 3,000 - 4,000

USD 4,200 - 5,500

Sold: CHF 8,850

LOT 54

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Ref. 16618, Yellow Gold ?Submariner? Black Dial Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual Date, Submariner, 1000ft/300m, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified?, Ref. 16618, case No. E323027. Made in 1990. Very fine, center-seconds, self-winding, water-resistant, 18K yellow gold wristwatch with date and black bezel with an 18K yellow gold Rolex Oyster "Fliplock" bracelet. Accompanied by a box and Guarantee (now void).

C. Three-body, solid, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and crown, graduated unidirectional revolving black bezel for the decompression times, "Triplock" winding-crown protected by the Crown Guard, sapphire crystal with ?cyclops? lens. D. Black with luminous round, triangular and baton gold indexes, aperture for the date. Luminous yellow gold "skeleton" hands. M. Cal. 3135, rhodiumplated, "oeil-deperdrix" decoration, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 13 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 13,000 - 17,000

EUR 8,000 - 10,000

USD 11,000 - 14,000

LOT 55

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Stainless Steel and Gold ?Daytona? Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual, Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified, Cosmograph, Daytona?, case No. U183576, Ref. 16523. Made in 1998. Fine, self-winding, water-resistant, stainless steel and gold wristwatch with round button chronograph, registers, tachometer, and a stainless steel and gold Oyster Fliplock bracelet. Accompanied by a fitted box, certificate and an additional strap.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back and gold buttons and crown, Triplock winding crown protected by the crown guard, tachometer graduation on the gold bezel to 400 units per hour, sapphire crystal. D. Bicolored black and gold with applied luminous gold indexes, subsidiary dials for the seconds, the 12- hour and 30-minute registers. Luminous gold baton hands. M. Cal. 4030, rhodium-plated, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to 5 positions and temperature, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 13 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 8,500 - 12,000

EUR 5,000 - 7,000

USD 7,000 - 10,000

Sold: CHF 10,030

LOT 56

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Yellow Gold "Cosmograph Daytona? Rolex, ?Oyster Perpetual, Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified, Cosmograph Daytona?, case No. A857764, Ref. 16518. Made in 1999. Fine, self-winding, water-resistant, 18K yellow gold wristwatch with round-button chronograph, registers, tachometer and an 18K yellow gold Rolex deployant Fliplock clasp. Accompanied by a fitted box and and COSC certificate.

C. Three-body, solid, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back, crown and buttons, Triplock winding-crown protected by the crown guard, tachometer graduation on the bezel to 400 units per hour, sapphire crystal. D. Mother-of-Pearl with applied gold Arabic numerals, subsidiary dials for the seconds, the 12-hour and 30-minute registers. Yellow gold baton hands. M. Cal. 4030, rhodium-plated, oeil-de-perdrix decoration, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to 6 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating free sprung Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 13 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 12,000 - 15,000

EUR 7,000 - 9,000

USD 10,000 - 13,000

Sold: CHF 11,800

LOT 57

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Ref. 16528, Yellow Gold "Cosmograph Daytona" Rolex, Oyster Perpetual, Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified, Cosmograph "Daytona", case No. S455297, Ref. 16528. Made in 1994. Fine, self-winding, water-resistant to 100 m., 18K yellow gold wristwatch with round button chronograph, registers, tachometer and an 18K yellow gold Rolex Oyster bracelet. Accompanied by a wooden box and guarantee (now void).

C. Three-body, solid, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back, buttons and crown, Triplock winding crown protected by the crown guard, tachometer graduation on the bezel to 400 units per hour, sapphire crystal. D. Bi-color white and black with luminous yellow gold indexes, subsidiary black ring dials for the seconds, the 12-hour and 30-minute registers. Luminous yellow gold "baton" hands. M. Cal. 4030, rhodium-plated, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to 6 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating free-sprung Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 13 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 17,000 - 20,000

EUR 10,000 - 12,000

USD 14,000 - 17,000

LOT 58

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

Ref. 16520, Stainless Steel ?Cosmograph Daytona? Rolex, "Oyster Perpetual, Superlative Chronometer, Officially Certified, Cosmograph Daytona", case No. U151778, Ref. 16520. Made in 1998. Very fine, self-winding, water-resistant, stainless steel chronometer wristwatch with round button chronograph, registers, tachometer and a stainless steel Rolex Oysterlock bracelet. Accompanied by original fitted box and booklets.

C. Three-body, polished and brushed, screwed-down case back, buttons and crown, Triplock winding crown protected by the crown guard, tachometer graduation on the bezel to 400 units per hour, sapphire crystal. D. White with applied luminous steel indexes, subsidiary black ring dials for the seconds, the 12-hour and 30-minute registers. Luminous steel "baton" hands. M. Cal. 4030, rhodiumplated, oeil-de-perdrix decoration, 31 jewels, straight-line lever escapement, free-sprung monometallic balance adjusted to temperatures and 5 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating Breguet balance spring, Microstella regulating screws. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 40 mm. Thickness 13 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 9,000 - 11,000

EUR 5,500 - 6,500

USD 7,500 - 9,000

Sold: CHF 15,340

LOT 59

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

White Gold 3445 Patek Philippe, Genève, movement No. 1117948, case No 328169, Ref. 3445. Made in 1970, sold on February 10th, 1971. Very fine and rare, self-winding, water resistant, 18K white gold wristwatch with jump-type date. Accompanied by the Extract from the Archives.

C. Two-body, polished and brushed, screwed down case back, stepped bezel, straight lugs. D. Matte silver with painted Roman numerals, outer minute division, subsidiary seconds dial at 6, aperture for the date. Black baton hands. M. Cal. 27-460 M, stamped twice with the Seal of Geneva Quality Mark, rhodium-plated, fausses-côtes decoration, 37 jewels, straight line lever escapement, Gyromax balance adjusted to heat, cold, isochronism and 5 positions, shock-absorber, self compensating free-sprung Breguet balancespring, 18K yellow gold rotor. Dial and movement signed. Diam. 35 mm. Thickness 11 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 20,000 - 25,000

EUR 12,000 - 15,000

USD 17,000 - 20,000

Sold: CHF 34,220

LOT 60

Important Collector's Watches, Pocket... Geneva, Nov 11, 2007

White Gold 3423 Patek Philippe, Genève, movement No. 712374, case No. 2644116, Ref. 3423. Made in 1968, sold on December 19, 1969. Very fine and rare, center- seconds, 18K white gold wristwatch. Accompanied by the Extract from the Archives.

C. Two-body, solid, polished, stepped bezel, straight lugs, snap on case back. D. Matte silver with applied white gold baton indexes. White gold baton hands. M. Cal. 27-SC, stamped with the Geneva Quality Mark, rhodiumplated, fausses-côtes decoration, 18 jewels, straight line lever escapement, monometallic balance adjusted to heat, cold, isochronism and 5 positions, shock absorber, self-compensating Breguet balance spring, swan neck micrometer regulator. Dial, case and movement signed. Diam. 34 mm. Thickness 10 mm.

Grading System: AA

CHF 14,000 - 17,000

EUR 8,500 - 10,000

USD 12,000 - 14,000